跟一位UK千万富翁的对话最近跟一位UK的千万富

DemonX：跟一位UK千万富翁的对话
最近跟一位UK的千万富翁朋友聊上了，虽然我们从事的是两种不同的行业，但是出于礼貌，我一开始还是帮着他找他需要的产品 。
接下来给大家分享一下我们的对话，关于中国制造，是不是需要换一个角度去思考？
对话一关于“Made in China”
Rory
yeh, it was worth a shot
ok I have a few questions then
Damon (16:55:27):
Ok pls
Rory (16:55:34):
once you told me about the whole electrical side in china It made me realise
So any big brand for example Cannon? Sony etc, will be cheaper to buy elsewhere?
we cannot go directly to the factory?
Damon (16:56:53):
yes, sony is also very expensive in China.
I think all the price of Sony have no big difference in the world
Rory (16:58:20):
and what about Cannon?
Damon (16:58:35):
Cannon camera?
Rory(16:58:41):
Yes
Damon (16:59:56):
the cannon, I need to confirm. It seems may be a factory sell this directly, but i'm not sure
Rory (17:00:11):
ok, well if you can find out
Basically, I have contacts in the film industry, so any 'BIG' brand they want
ok moving off electronics
Damon (17:01:19):
wow.
Rory(17:01:29):
So if you and I can source this brands
we will make money
*these
Damon (17:01:57):
yeah, I hope we can success
Rory(17:02:24):
Basically any big brand that's genuine and you can source I can sell
right another question
when it comes down to sport, i.e Nike, Adidas, I see there are plenty of fakes in china, can you/we get the real genuine thing?
Damon
you need genuine Nike or Adidas from factory directly?
Rory (17:04:46):
yes, I used to own a sports retail business, 10 shops
I sold them, however, I have hundreds of contacts in the sporting world
expecially Football
Damon (17:05:44):
I know, did you import the genuine one from China before?
Rory(17:06:01):
no, I went through the middle man, the agent from the UK
so the markup was very average
I never thought of going direct, I never thought I could
Damon (17:07:21):
I thin you can if you try. Do you know where did the agent of UK get the geniue ones?
Rory (17:08:09):
Well i have no doubt that they are made in China, then shipped the the European Warehouses, then in term shipped to me
Damon (17:09:25):
If you make sure of it. I think it is worthy to me to find a factory for you. I will try
Rory(17:09:52):
Yes, I have no doubt if we can source them directly, we can make a fortune
They are 100% made in china, BUT in the UK if you buy fake stuff, you will be caught at customs, you no longer can
but if we can get the Genuine products
Soccer Boots
we can make a fortune
Damon (17:11:10):
shoes?
Rory (17:11:33):
Yes, you know soccer boots
shoes
well anything Genuine from Nike & Adidas
Damon (17:12:01):
OK,Both shoe and clothes you need?
Rory(17:12:07):
yes
genuine though is a must
Damon (17:12:55):
Yes, even I find the factory, I will check if it is genuine. this is our next step I think
Rory(17:13:34):
yes, i should imagine, there are hundreds of factories that produce it
i also imagine hundreds are fake
Damon (17:13:49):
yes.
First, let me try. When I get some news. let's talk the next step.
Rory(17:16:19):
Ok great,
As i said, any big brand I can sell here. So I'll leave it to you.
I hope we can work together
Damon (17:17:18):
Ok, I know your meaning. Also thank you for your trusting me
Rory(17:17:47):
not a problem, you made me realise the other day, that Big electrical companies abuse chinese labour
thankyou for educating me
Damon (17:18:17):
haha. That's just a fact
Rory(17:18:50):
well i new that, but I never new, China can't even sell what they make
quite frankly its disgusting
Damon (17:20:59):
Yes, but you know there are many reason for Chinese company to do this. Actually, we didn't have many big brand. If we have, we won't do this any more . So the most problem for China is to develop ourself's products. they, it will be better
Rory (17:21:44):
yes definately,
I have bought Chinese own brand before, for Sat nav, they were great
I am looking for cheap ones that are good quality to sell actually
Damon (17:23:44):
Yes, you know, because of so large amount of fake products in China, even there is some new and good products, few pepole know it.
Rory (17:24:12):
yes exactly
unfortunately people here in the UK, think China is just fake
but me and you can prove them othersie hahaha
Damon (17:27:22):
haha. I'm so gald to be a friend of you. Actually, not uk, many countries think so. This fact need to changed in a long time. If you get the real one in China, I think there will be more people like you can know the 'real one' in China
Rory(17:27:53):
yes I hope so
Damon (17:29:06):
ok, I have to go for supper now. See you Rory. I will reply you when I get any news
Rory (17:29:21):
ok, i look forward to it
中国一直以来的代工厂现状，以及富士康苹果不堪的血汗工厂报道不断有所耳闻，问题出在哪里？

月亮居士：在一些不同的公司呆过，确实开发自己牌子的产品利润会比较高，但是需要投入大量的广告，还要有自己的核心技术，建立销售渠道。中国市场就是这样，有好的产品推出来，大家就会去跟，去模仿，最后把整个市场利润率拉低……无数次的循环，懒得说了。:L
看了这些对话，这个英国人想去 Nike 和 Adi 的中国工厂进货，基本上这个比较难。 Nike和Adi在中国的这些厂都是OEM代工厂商.他们没有私售的权力.不单是委托公司会起诉他们.就是海关税务工商等职能部门.他不会放过他们的.呵呵

doyo：真羡慕你
刚出来工作，却事事不顺，T到1楼的畅谈，真羡慕那些有一两个外国人经常和自己长谈呢

DemonX：
:L 很循环吗

DemonX：
我也刚出来工作不久， 如果用心对待所有的客户，会有很多人愿意跟你聊幸会！

DemonX：
其实你说的很对，中国的代工厂通常情况下不会这样做。客户知道这回事。但是他的英国代理商做到了。他想直接跳过代理商，我想在中国，很多事情也不是不可能的

月亮居士：循环的意思是： 别的公司再出一款热销的产品，大家再模仿，再跟……
那他英国的代理商小牛了:funk: ，我也只是通过朋友去 Nike 和 Adi 在宁波的代工厂 买些 尾单，拿来送送亲戚，朋友什么的……你找到愿意销售大货给你的厂家了吗:o ？

Aphrodite616：我在Adi 的加工厂做过跟单，他们的5S管理很到位的，规模不小，每个人都只是一个螺丝钉，要把自己所有的工作都记录下来。管理比较到位的，但是于个人发展却不是很有利。因为部门主管都是香港人，大陆人最多就是混到一个小组长。和国企差不多了，按部就班的工作。

yimi127：这里就有一个疑问了，为什么很多香港人在这些世界大公司里，比如是在中国的分公司什么的，都是由香港人做头，为什么不是大陆的，而大多是香港的？难道老外偏爱香港人么？这当中的区别在哪里？这是一种怎样的现象？

潜行者Jack：
我觉得最主要的区别是教育程度
中国的大学生大部分都是流水线产品,跟世界一流差得不是一点半点啊

fomtom：确实有很多这样的代工厂，很容易找到。 但关于要进货且必须保证正品， 1楼最好先进行下市场调查。不是那么容易的。
另外，回复yimi127:香港跟大陆的区别， 稍微看下历史就明白了。 大陆人的名声以及做生意的名誉在世界上尚未得到好的口碑跟认可。

Am-way：呵呵。值得思考

xsp010：yeah, I hope we can success

DemonX：
还没找到啊。 这不来救助了嘛呵呵 不急 慢慢来

DemonX：
这个问题 我现在才发现。难不成大陆人还真比香港差？:L

DemonX：
you will be successful:L :L

DemonX：
朋友，在哪里的阿迪工厂啊？ 方便透露不？他们允许内销吗？ 或者说有木有可能拿到货？

eightone：品牌投资需要资金.。现在人家卖那么贵就是品牌效益.

linmer：大陆和香港人，应该是关于到责任承担的问题吧。
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中国制造，如果是想走品牌路线的话，如今应该会是非常有难度！
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看那些虚拟的就行了，“偷菜”的游戏，为什么腾讯能做的那么大？开心网的我看都没去看过。
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现在的专利战都遍地开花了，google，微软，苹果。都世界第三次大战了。品牌？个人意见：中国算哪根葱？

DemonX：
严重了吧

linmer：
也许有点吧。不过不是涨别人威风，灭自己士气。只是大部分的人不争气。

grassrookie：老外要买足球鞋吗？
哪种？SG?FG?HG?TF?

robinhuhuhu：你想表达什么，我没从你们的聊天记录看出啥

Pheonix03：
就算你找到了，这种品牌的，没有拿到授权，你出得去吗？

peteroy：made in china???
我最新看到的是MAKE IN P.R.C
people's republic of china.=PRC
老外都不写china，写PRC了。 可见一般。

Aimee1994：现在很多品牌都是OEM、
明明是自己国内制造的还搞的和什么似的。
就像达芬奇一样。

E-Bag：这么长 看都看晕了
这些品牌的正品 一般是很难搞到的 能搞到 应该也是小批量 或者有瑕疵的
就算量大 如果没有品牌授权书 怎么过两边的海关
难道走私出口不成

夏添：盐碱地里怎么可能长出好庄稼，能产点就不错了.