onthewayupp:恶心奸诈的澳大利亚客人,国外暴光中国商人骗术的网站,大家有则改之无则加勉
(www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/the-bigger-list-of-chinese-scams )这个网站是澳大利亚的一个专门针对中国出口商的网站,有些心存不诡的家伙就把供应商的名字放在里面加以抵毁。
上周六收到一个询盘,直接丢到我邮箱里,没有公司背景等等。
回过去第二天便收入到回复,说要公司的地址及付款方式,再回。
下午回来说要工厂的联系方式。我说我们就是工厂,对方显然不相信。但实际上我们本来就是自己的工厂。
后来长篇大论回信来说要我提供公司注册号及其它证明信息,我觉得这家伙很可疑,加上很忙便回复如下:
Dear Mr. Sukebe Dayo
i don't want to lost this opportunity, while i am sorry so far we dont have any customer in Austrilia, i send out 50 pcs to my spanish customer on Monday, they are very content with our devices, any way, i try to release you from concern, as you know this product comes out in January this year, and we have accumulated customer connection from many countries.
what's more, we have attended the Global Source Fair, hold in HongKong during 05/13-05/16
we are now on the way to build the initialmutual-trust, i think i have tried my best, all i can do is to prove it with my action after you give the chance.
best regards
sincerely
alex.liu
不一会,回信过来部分内容如下:
Of course, Sukebe Dayo is only my pen name, and I only use
a hotmail address to protect my business in the inquiry stages,I
see no reason to divulge full details ofmy "thriving" business unless
asking for credit, or special favours such as an agency etc.
There is no objection, at this stage, to "paying cash up front" but
I do need some assurances, and to be brutally honest your comment
"..i send out 50 pcs to my spanish customer on Monday, they are very
content with our devices ."is an insult to my intelligence and can in no
way be construed as a reference, in fact, if in reply to a request for credit
references, I gave a similar answer I would be laughed at by the business
community I deal, and have dealt, with throughout the years.
看完之后,有点上火,但还是回他,部分内容如下:
Dear Sir
let me put things easy
1. on credit standing issue, i am sorry, i have no choice, just like your experience, before we practise western union and TT, we had also been cheated by some body who receive product without any further payment information. we live on our credit, and there must be one to make the first step in mutual-trust.
2. believe it or not, all my customers showed a understanding on our payment terms, since you apparently don't trust me, i don't think there is any value in more explaination on the spanish customer topic, so you can laugh at me all through the year.
这里面可能有些不够耐心,但对方回复中无耻的威胁让我彻底愤怒了,部分内容如下:
If you decide not to use normal business practices, and
take an attitude that is hostile to a prospective customer
like me who has many years of importing and exporting
experience, then, with all respect, you have no idea of how
to conduct trade negotiations with experienced businesses.
I will await copies of your certification etc as requested in my
last e-mail to you.If you don't, or won't, supply copies of the
documentation your government requires you to have,
then I most certainly can not trust you as you cannot be a legitimate
operator without such documentation.
Now, I am very angry with your seemingly arrogant and unprofessional
business attitude of trying to shift the blame onto me . so here is my
promise to you
If you don't supply the documentation I requested I will
most certainly put it in my blog and advise people that you
would not supply the documentation that you are(yes, I have
Chinese friends who can, if I ask, write in Mandarin to the BIC
etc.)
This is not a threat ..it is a promise and I will only tell the truth.
Now, I know it is not in the Chinese nature to appologise
for anything, so if you just send me the certification I asked for then
there will be no need for you to applogise (saving your face . see
how nice I am?).On receipt of the documentation I will reopen
our negotiations and put in my blog that you have all the documentation
that the PRC requires.As the blog is widely read this will be of imense
value to you and give you support in future dealings with overseas clients.
后来我越想越不对劲,后来从他的语言习惯和邮件里走露的信息我怀疑这是现在正在做的一个澳大利亚客人在摸底,后来他的一封来信让我确定就是他搞鬼,还说什么要搞一个国际审查团来中国进行审查。顿时我决定直接揭露他,这样的客人宁可不要,我们有正规的手续,可以为客人提供,但签于他这样的素质我决定和他断决往来:
after all my sincere email to you, i think this is the time for you to put the poker on the desk.
after our analysize, i am sorry to inform you that your distributing power is not ok for us to give the distributorship to you.
since last week i have received several email from someone with pen name:"Sukebe Dayo" in fact we have no wonder in where this funny guy is from, but this nuts really wasted my time, so when he made some funny promise to revenge on us, i added him to my black list, i am a honnest business man, while finally he let me realize that there is somebody who never deserve my sincerity.
i don't want to guess what is the purpose of this guy, but i am sure he is good for business relationship, no mention to be a friend.
as for all the information this "Sukebe Dayo" wanted from us,we are considering to supply this for our customers in the following days, while for this guy, he will be just an exception, we don't trust this sort of guy can do any thing good.
in fact i don't think you really believe in this word as you said "we are confident in saying that 96 percent (+) of Chinese traders are honest and reputable but this still leaves dishonest traders in very large numbers, so please take all precautions" there are some dishonest junk in every country, they make money by cheating and using a pen name. i am luck i am not this kind of man. as chinese saying goes "no misdoing, no fear".
i am sure you know what i mean, so you never need to reply to me any more, that means you are also an exception.
by the way, this japan named "Sukebe Dayo" said
"If you don't supply the documentation I requested I will
most certainly put it in my blog and advise people that you
would not supply the documentation that you are(yes, I have
Chinese friends who can, if I ask, write in Mandarin to the BIC
etc.)"
and
"Now, I know it is not in the Chinese nature to appologise
for anything"
for this i have a question, Chinese should appologise for what? for your disgusting threatening?
i really feel sorry for your quality and feel it insulted the good australia imge in my mind.
ok, i am regretful to have wasted so much work time on this issue.
good luck to you
alex.liu
最后这个无耻之徒不否认也不承认前面几封信是他写的。
真够气人的。
恋草:有必要吗就算真是他也不要把关系弄这么僵,何况不能百分百确定
onthewayupp:
现在可以肯定是他,况且在他的回复中一点没有被冤狂的意思。
sohu.com:有时候就是要这样。
enson65916:做外贸生意的没必要计较这些细节问题啦
有必要就继续邮件来往
觉得没必要直接屏蔽就行了
呵呵
zsbest:
圣锋科技:措辞也不必太强烈了..留点余地
桂子飘香:有必要和他斗气吗。支持你。
贝壳里的海:英语很流利,
Hestia::L 太长了
。没那么大耐心看完全部英文啊
michaelsn:LZ英语很牛~~这个老外sucks:@ :@ :@
ls9926:
同意这位仁兄的意见
jimbinns:LZ 的英语很让我佩服,很流利,和说中文一样,竟然能把谚语都写进去,感觉好像只有大学写作文的时候才会的,呵呵,佩服
newcomingnew:强烈支持 楼住的做法
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文章首发表于:2009-6-8 17:54